Playing a Stack of 15 Big Blinds or Less

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PimpinDonks

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  • 17 min 55 sec
  • Aug 10th, 2010
  • 5/5 (4 Ratings)

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Playing a stack of 15 BB's or less happens at the end stage of sngs the majority of the time. To be a great player you need to know the information in this video on this important subject!

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Hey pimpin; so, if you minraise to steal with around 15 bigs and a callbot (say someone with 30+ vpip who can't stop clicking call) flats you, you should just give up if you don't hit, right? What if you flop decently but not amazingly, say you raised KJ and flop AJ5, or you raised 88 and flop Q77. Are you still going to c-bet at these guys knowing they probably won't fold regardless of if you are ahead or not, and if they call you and turn is an ugly card then what?

Yup I wouldn't cbet a calling station with 15 bigs.

With middle pair I would just check behind and try to get to showdown cheaply. I may even check the turn as well. If they bet the turn I would call and see what happens on the river.

Hey,

when you you have less than 12BBs on the bubble and at least one other player has a similar stack do you still recomend pushing all in on a very wide range of hands?

Yes, I play for the win. It will make you more money in the long run to play this way. You will get knocked out on the bubble a little more often but the wins you get from playing aggressively will more than make up for small losses.

would you use this stategy in a deepstack tourny. as when i play live tourneys, i tend to freeze by looking at stack rather than blinds.

Yes I would use this in tournaments also. If you play aggressive and go for the win in tournaments you will get more wins over your life time and will make more money.

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Yo pimpin! I am sure this is not the correct thread but curious if u ever play the double or nothing tournaments or hyperturbos? If so maybe a possible video on these?

I have played those games and may do a video on them sometime. Thanks for the idea!

Before I purchase this video, and any of the videos in your series, I would like to know how many of them are particularly relevant to FTP SNGs?

They apply to all types of sngs, fulltilt poker included!

Pimpin, @ minute 10... you min w/ the AK (slightly less than 15bb), and get flatted by the button. Let's assume you miss the flop and there is no draw. Is c-betting a mistake? Would you just play it straight forward post?

Also, do you change your approach if it's the BB that's calling instead of the button?

Thanks

Yeah that is a gross spot if you miss post flop. Checking with the intention of folding to most bets is probably the best play post flop. Not much would change if the BB called instead except it would be easier to get to showdown in position.

yo pimpin if you shove the SB what do you think, how many % is the range(of all hands) what a avarage villain calls you with?

And when do you stop shoving a 100% of handse with like 8bb.

Regulars will call shoves much wider than fish so it depends on the player in the big blind. I will start folding the bottom of my range against regs with about 6 bbs.

but you shove 23 with 8 big blinds against 99% off opponents?

If it is a player who calls allins too tight than I will shove it with 8 bbs 100% of the time.

Many players make fundamental errors in exactly this scenario. These errors considerably reduce their chances of reaching the final table. This article discusses playing an average stack at the various stages of multi table tournament – and suggests some strategies to improve your chances of moving out of the ‘average’ zone.
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Hi, is there a push fold chart that you have made to go with this video??

I don't use push fold charts.

12 Bb or less push! Means we can say from the SB versus BB we can push any 2 having 12 or less BB instead of the ten you mention in the video? I got confused about that!

Surprise Thanks for the answer in advance!

It depends on the opponent in the BB and the sng situation. There is no clear cut answer to your question.

If the player in the BB calls allins with a wide range than you have to tighten up your pushing range.

Just for the clearity................Are we talking about our own stack at this video or effective stacksizes...........?! Surprise

You should always go by effective stacks.

Hi mark,

I am looking to your videos a few time, keep doing that! You tell at 3:52 15 bb zone that you tighten up your stealing range, suited connecters like 98o t8o,

...but in the next line you tell you raise with qjo what is even worse than a suited connector. I assume that QJs could be in the line of 98o and t8o.

I am confused here!

Thanks for your answer in advance

QJo is a stronger hand than 98o or T8o. QJo is in the top 14% of hands on pokerstove. T8o is in the top 41%.

Hey Pimpin, really appreciate all your help for the community! Def have filled up some gaps in my game, and I must say I envy you're experience & knowledge.

The fold at 12:54 looks to me at too tight though. Considering the good equity you have a pretty decent amount of the time when he's restealing with a bluff, any pair up to 10s, AK A10 and below, K10 and below. The fold is really only justified against AJ AQ and JJ+, and his range must be much wider. I would def call unless he has some pretty solid stats to show for not 3bstealing.

What do you think?

Also, I would love to see more on the 15BB or less, especially reacting on other players' bets.

Thanks a bunch from the Netherlands

I agree to fold in this spot the opponent has to have tight 3 betting stats. His shoving range dominates QJ as well. He is shoving AQ,KQ, AJ and maybe KJ.

There is really nothing I can beat here. QJ could have roughly 40% equity against some of his shoving hands like AT, A9... Calling allins with the worst of it is something I try to avoid.

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You tell in your video, having 15bb you min raise on the bu with kj qj Does that mean you do that as well with 13 and 15 bb, open min raise here.

If they call you you just play your hand honest without cbetting right?

I got confused cause you mention to tighen up your range and not betting qj, 89, t8 kind of hands,

Thanks a lot in advance

With 13bb I would shove those hands.

If they call I would cbet 2bbs on some flops I miss (ace high, 222 flop ....)

Yup I think tightening up your stealing range with this stack size is important. KJ is too good to fold on the button though 89, T8 I think should be folds.

Hi Mark!

Great series. I would like to know more about your stealing ranges <15bb. What range would you raise/fold with and what range would you raise/induce with against average opponents? Also, I constructed some general chip EV 10bb and 15bb shoving ranges using SNGWIZ, can I email them to you for your opinion please?

Many thanks,

Matt

Actually don't worry, figured it out Smile