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PokerStars Game #45285938362: Tournament #315010343, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2010/06/09 11:49:20 PT [2010/06/09 14:49:20 ET]
Table '315010343 414' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: HolyFreak (40873 in chips)
Seat 2: BaXeee (25506 in chips)
Seat 3: Bartezque (19039 in chips)
Seat 4: savageman77 (50863 in chips)
Seat 5: vontrips (45277 in chips)
Seat 6: MapOfUrHead (145284 in chips)
Seat 7: bwk2421 (3089 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: dfl543 (33484 in chips)
Seat 9: Rober240171 (52257 in chips)
HolyFreak: posts the ante 150
BaXeee: posts the ante 150
Bartezque: posts the ante 150
savageman77: posts the ante 150
vontrips: posts the ante 150
MapOfUrHead: posts the ante 150
bwk2421: posts the ante 150
dfl543: posts the ante 150
Rober240171: posts the ante 150
MapOfUrHead: posts small blind 800
bwk2421: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to savageman77 [Kc Kd]
dfl543: folds
Rober240171: folds
HolyFreak: raises 1900 to 3500
BaXeee: folds
Bartezque: folds
savageman77: raises 6100 to 9600
vontrips: calls 9600
MapOfUrHead: folds
bwk2421: folds
HolyFreak: calls 6100
*** FLOP *** [7h 5s 3h]
HolyFreak: checks
savageman77: bets 41113 and is all-in
vontrips: folds
HolyFreak: calls 31123 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (9990) returned to savageman77
*** TURN *** [7h 5s 3h] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [7h 5s 3h 8h] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HolyFreak: shows [3d 3c] (three of a kind, Threes)
savageman77: shows [Kc Kd]
(a pair of Kings)
HolyFreak collected 94796 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 94796 | Rake 0
Board [7h 5s 3h 8h 6c]
Seat 1: HolyFreak showed [3d 3c] and won (94796) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 2: BaXeee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bartezque folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: savageman77 showed [Kc Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: vontrips (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: MapOfUrHead (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: bwk2421 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: dfl543 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Rober240171 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
So after some thought back on the hand I just wanted to get some opinion's of how the hand was played. Of course I had been playing my normal TAG style and only been showing down some big hands...
1) Should my 3bet have been larger? Maybe to 11,500 - 12,000.....
I knew it could be trouble as soon as the "super smart" guy on my left cold called 9600 to give the initial raiser even more juicy odds to hit his set....
2) Should I jam that flop??
I don't think I'm ever checking this flop to see the dreaded A and I will most likely get paid from QQs-88s and if one of the V's has AA then gg anyways...
Any advice from some of you MTT players would be great... Thanx & good luck at the tables!!
It's funny that as soon as you point out the starting pot size it's a no brain-er that my 3bet should have been larger and I initially was going to 3bet larger and last second pulled it back to induce action....doh....
I really didn't like the play of either of the V's as well but all I could say was
"nice catch"...lol
Thanks alot Alex for your analysis, I really appreciate it!
Good luck at the tables!





Starting pot is 800+1600+(9x150) = 3750 starting pot.
I don't mind your 3bet size because its substantial enough that it should just push everything out of the hand that doesnt want to jam pre. However SPR-wise (stack to pot ratio), you're effectively 40,000 deep with the OR and so a slightly larger 3bet makes it easier to shove the flop. Say, for instance, you make it 12,000. The OR calls and the pot becomes 24,000+3750 = 27750, and you're left with effectively 28,000 behind so you have 1 PSB left. This helps reduce reverse implied as well because you won't be forced to make multiple street decisions with your kings. With your current sizing, if the OR had just called you the pot would be 22,950 post-flop with around 30,000 behind, making it awkward to play your hand effectively.
Fwiw both other players have played this hand horrifically. The EP raise of 33 is dire, and commiting 1/4 of his stack preflop to try and setmine is simply incorrect, especially out of position, regardless of the pot odds the cold caller supplies. The cold call is almost certainly terrible as well, though I obv dont know what his hand was. To cold call pre and fold this flop though suggests not a big pair like JJ/QQ but perhaps AK, which is just played horrendously as well.
As played im fine with you jamming the flop, you literally have no alternative but to get it in here, and it sucks for you that he's hit his 8 to 1 set having played the hand terribly.