deep stacks
Deep stack is now the only type of poker i think i want to play. by deep i mean 200bb plus. It requires so much more skill and is less on how u run. Its much more fun playing 2/4 tables 250bb deep, its a totally different game to SnGs and tournaments. It is even totally different from 100bb poker. I have found myself with 24 suited on the button with a raiser and about 3 to 1, the raiser has 100bb and i think he isnt deep enough to make it +ev. The tables are still soft at the low levels, and it is really easy to pick up a fair few small pots as bigger stacks seem to make people real timid. A crazy LAG style would work for sure, but i dont know if i have the nuts for this atm. i suggest you get on these table alex u would love them, get to apply reads and theory far more effectively than SnGs and short cash. Heres my graph for today (i was formely losing on reline by a fair bit). This doesnt include my $54 pot from yesterday, i upgraded to windows 7 and reinstalled pokertracker.
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I agree with you about the sample it is very small. From the play i have seen i think i should definitely be a winner (though not at this rate). I am playing 0.05/0.01 with $600, this should be enough to handle some swings and i have seen 9 showdowns in 359 so i dont know much i will from showdowns. as i said my biggest pot ($27 net profit all in) was not included. I dont expect to see a huge rise in showdowns as what i have observed people go to showdown about 5% of the time. All in EV is much less of a factor in this play as you see so few showdowns and by the time you are either pretty much 100% to win or u are drawing dead and you have so much more comitted to the pot. i have only seen people all in with monsters or at least hugely strong draws (straight flush draws etc). My play has been mainly full ring, and i still think a really aggressive style would work, maybe 30/15 vpip which seems high. Oh yeah and my bigsst loss on the all in grpah is
PokerStars Game #43165892161: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2010/04/25 14:47:23 WET [2010/04/25 9:47:23 ET]
Table 'Kniertje III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: NoSkill444 ($20.69 in chips)
Seat 2: crafty thrak ($9.96 in chips)
Seat 3: GNICKKING ($25.37 in chips)
Seat 6: Välek505 ($19.42 in chips)
Seat 7: henrycleaver ($24.08 in chips)
Seat 8: sergeant999 ($24.86 in chips)
Seat 9: athirsonrj ($27.30 in chips)
sergeant999: posts small blind $0.05
athirsonrj: posts big blind $0.10
Chimet: sits out
NoSkill444: posts the ante $0.02
crafty thrak: posts the ante $0.02
GNICKKING: posts the ante $0.02
Välek505: posts the ante $0.02
henrycleaver: posts the ante $0.02
sergeant999: posts the ante $0.02
athirsonrj: posts the ante $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to henrycleaver [7s Ad]
NoSkill444: folds
crafty thrak: folds
GNICKKING: folds
Välek505: folds
henrycleaver: raises $0.30 to $0.40
sergeant999: calls $0.35
athirsonrj: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ks Ac Jh]
sergeant999: checks
henrycleaver: bets $0.60
sergeant999: calls $0.60
*** TURN *** [Ks Ac Jh] [Kd]
sergeant999: checks
henrycleaver: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ks Ac Jh Kd] [Kh]
sergeant999: bets $2.50
henrycleaver: calls $2.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sergeant999: shows [Kc Qc] (four of a kind, Kings)
henrycleaver: mucks hand
sergeant999 collected $6.89 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.24 | Rake $0.35
Board [Ks Ac Jh Kd Kh]
Seat 1: NoSkill444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: crafty thrak folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GNICKKING folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Välek505 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: henrycleaver (button) mucked [7s Ad]
Seat 8: sergeant999 (small blind) showed [Kc Qc] and won ($6.89) with four of a kind, Kings
Seat 9: athirsonrj (big blind) folded before Flop
showdown winnings > non showdown winnings, always.
I don't know why you're talking about being all in when all showdown requires is getting to the river with two live hands? Opening aces and getting three streets of value when they flop top pair => showdown winnings.
Deepstacked tables actually have tonnes of variance - pots are so much bigger and you need a bigger bankroll for them compared to standard 100BB cash games for sure.
You're right about it being a totally different game as well. I've been dipping a toe in on 4max tables recently and there are some similarities - being so short handed makes an aggressive style really profitable vs most tables. It becomes easier to isolate the fish and play pots with them, even more so than in 6max.
Good to see you're having a nice run; although that 300ish hand sample doesn't say ~anything about what you can expect in the long term. In the long run it'll be very hard to maintain a red line in profit or around even - most of the time (especially at these low stakes) your non-showdown line will be in loss - what you had before sounds about right. The one that really counts is the showdown one as this is more where money is won and lost.